Nick Fuentes: “We’re almost like a secret society. Watch the show, take the talking points, download that, and then hide your real views and go and pretend to be a normie Republican.”

KEITH WOODS (HOST): But as the demand scales back a little bit, won’t the logic for a lot of people be well, “I can demand limit to immigration, some of these things, roll back DEI, but why would I take the heat of doing that and being a groyper or doing that and being a white identitarian?”

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NICK FUENTES (GUEST): I tell people to hide their power level. I’m not telling people to necessarily go out and broadcast, “Hey, I’m like a white nationalist.” I don’t — I tell people to do the opposite. And if people are willing to — 

But the thing is, I don’t think that, you know, being like an elite human capital liberal is the path forward for a conservative anyway. I’m still right-wing. I still believe in right wing-politics, and I still believe there’s like a right-wing populist message for immigration. I mean, saying like, you know, you either are going to be a groyper white nationalist or you’re going to be a Hanania liberal that’s against immigration, I don’t think those are the only options.

I think that Bannon — I am a big Bannon supporter actually. I’ve turned out to be one. I have — For the record, I have not talked to him. I don’t have any relationship with him. People say that we’re working together. We’re not. I’ve never spoken with the man, and in the past, we’ve actually had beef.

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I tell people when they infiltrate the GOP, I say Bannon’s the model. It’s funny you say that because I tell them that’s about as far as you want to push it. And I tell people to push a respectable version of it. Trump, Bannon, that type of rhetoric is about what passes and it gets the job done. And so I don’t tell people that we need a exoteric white nationalist message. I’m not telling people go and, you know, proclaim Spengler and Francis Parker Yockey. I’m telling people, we’re almost like a secret society. Watch the show, take the talking points, download that, and then hide your real views and go and pretend to be a normie Republican. 

But the policy is immigration moratorium, America first. You know, we do want to be a big tent populist movement that can be attractive to non-white people. And we’re not out — It’s not like we’re, like, secretly out to get them, but it’s like, you know, in a sense, we are pushing for white identitarianism. It’s just that, like you said, I don’t know that that is politically viable. So maybe there’s like a miscommunication. I’m not telling people, “Hey, run on a platform of groyperism.” If anything, it’s the opposite. I tell people if you’re going to run, don’t say my name. Don’t praise me.

That’s why for so long I didn’t really give an opinion on James Fishback because I didn’t want to hurt his chances. I didn’t want to sidle up right next to him because to the extent that he’s going to win, I know I’m going to be a liability for him. So, I think that, you know, a lot of people want to beat their chest and say, “Oh, it’s whites, whites, whites.” You got to pander to whites, certainly, but do it in a way that’s politically viable.